apex proof of trading

[TradeChaser]

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20 is not that much different than 22.......

think in terms of the tipping point..... think in terms of total counts......

if the tipping point is 21 you might do something when x >= 22 that you would not if x <= 20 ......

what is your tipping point......

how much must align before you buy...... how much must align before you sell....

look at the mym chart......

saywords().......h

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   if(NewBar())
    {
     Comment("buy  " + IntegerToString(b) +"  sell  " + IntegerToString(s));
 
     if(b >= buyat)  {Alert(_Symbol+"  buy  b  " + IntegerToString(b) );  }  //---- your buyat would be your buy tipping point
     if(s >= sellat) {Alert(_Symbol+"  sell   s  " + IntegerToString(s));  } //---- your sellat would be your sell tipping point
    }

A lot of coding conventions I have never considered…

Need to understand the best practices of global variables. I know they were in MQ4. Didn’t understand them but probably my dashboards would freeze.

if cnt == 90 ....

Interesting. I read that about 4 times before I realized it wasn’t >=…

The first 4 times I figured “MYMM2515alma” would be a global variable for the count since last signal…

But ==. Either you get a single bar to enter, or “MYMM2515alma” exists as a scale up to 10?

MYMM2515alma = 10
MYMM2530alma = 10
MYMM2560alma = 10
MYMM2515hma10= 10
MYMM2530hma10= 10
MYMM2560hma10= 10
MYMM2515hma20= 10
MYMM2530hma20= 10
MYMM2560hma20= 10

That looks like 90 to me… but what is the 10?

 

[hayseed]

That looks like 90 to me… but what is the 10?

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globalvariableset......

globalvariableget......


10 is just a value i used, can't remember why.......

10 for >...... -10 for <.......

learning mq5 will take a massive amount of time for those of us that have 0 training in the field......

a consuming desire to learn will be needed......

same can be said for trading......h

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 27, 2025

hey enivid..... thanks for the reply......

saw both those functions but tried neither.....

was trying the same arraycopy method which has worked without fail before....

the basic code is very simple, we both could write every line of it in our heads..... until volume for me.....

the only difference i can see is ivolume requires a shift where the others do not.....

the indicator sets all the global values for it's symbol and 7 common timeframes......

the dashboard indicator then cycles thru all the global values and displays them....

i will read up on the...

• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 27, 2025

cant get array copy to work with volumes.... gives goofy numbers.....

code below works......

increasing volume can not be used to verify momentum or trend......

useful in other ideas......h

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            if(iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],0) >  iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],1))  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"volume",  10); } // can't get arraycopy to work..... this does.....
 
            if(iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],0) <  iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],1))  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"volume", -10); }

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• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 5, 2025

the only thing more confusing than a dashboard with a hundred objects is a expert advisor with a hundred inputs..... at least to me......

as in the prior post chart , explanations can be written out....... there might be times where the room to do so does not exist......

OBJPROP_TOOLTIP lets us see the explanation when the the mouse curser is placed over the object...... perfect cure for a bad memory.....

my memory has limits...... h
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       if(GlobalVariableGet(symbol) ==  10) {clr = clrLime;}
       if(GlobalVariableGet(symbol) == -10) {clr = clrRed;}...

• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Feb 18, 2025

psar[1], psar[2] and 20 sma........h
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//------ alerts v count.mq5  sets global variables
 
 
           if(ma20s[1] > ma20s[2])  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"ma", 10);}  else  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"ma", -10);}             
 
 
 
           if(iHigh(_Symbol,tf[j],0) > psars[0])
           {         
           psarclr[j]     = clrBlue;  GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"p1",10);                       
           }
           else
           {         
           psarclr[j]     = clrRed...

• hayseed

 

[TradeChaser]

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globalvariableset......

globalvariableget......


10 is just a value i used, can't remember why.......

10 for >...... -10 for <.......

learning mq5 will take a massive amount of time for those of us that have 0 training in the field......

a consuming desire to learn will be needed......

same can be said for trading......h

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 27, 2025

hey enivid..... thanks for the reply......

saw both those functions but tried neither.....

was trying the same arraycopy method which has worked without fail before....

the basic code is very simple, we both could write every line of it in our heads..... until volume for me.....

the only difference i can see is ivolume requires a shift where the others do not.....

the indicator sets all the global values for it's symbol and 7 common timeframes......

the dashboard indicator then cycles thru all the global values and displays them....

i will read up on the...

• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 27, 2025

cant get array copy to work with volumes.... gives goofy numbers.....

code below works......

increasing volume can not be used to verify momentum or trend......

useful in other ideas......h

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            if(iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],0) >  iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],1))  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"volume",  10); } // can't get arraycopy to work..... this does.....
 
            if(iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],0) <  iVolume(_Symbol,tf[j],1))  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"volume", -10); }

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• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Mar 5, 2025

the only thing more confusing than a dashboard with a hundred objects is a expert advisor with a hundred inputs..... at least to me......

as in the prior post chart , explanations can be written out....... there might be times where the room to do so does not exist......

OBJPROP_TOOLTIP lets us see the explanation when the the mouse curser is placed over the object...... perfect cure for a bad memory.....

my memory has limits...... h
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       if(GlobalVariableGet(symbol) ==  10) {clr = clrLime;}
       if(GlobalVariableGet(symbol) == -10) {clr = clrRed;}...

• hayseed

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Post in thread 'learning mql5'

Feb 18, 2025

psar[1], psar[2] and 20 sma........h
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//------ alerts v count.mq5  sets global variables
 
 
           if(ma20s[1] > ma20s[2])  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"ma", 10);}  else  {GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"ma", -10);}             
 
 
 
           if(iHigh(_Symbol,tf[j],0) > psars[0])
           {         
           psarclr[j]     = clrBlue;  GlobalVariableSet(_Symbol+tfs[j]+"p1",10);                       
           }
           else
           {         
           psarclr[j]     = clrRed...

• hayseed

I will give that thread a read! looks like a lot of great exercises that someone coming from MQL4 ought to try!

 

[TradeChaser]

Some trades.... earlier trades were truly just getting to know the platform (tradovate) and Ninjatrader. Still learning MQL4, so using Ninjascript with a little help from my friend claude. Today I started looking for 1's and 5's.... The losses were capitulation... they weren't bad, so there is that. But simply put, I exited because I got squeemish, not because of any rules. Same could be said for the profitable ones.

Very poor adherence to the lines, but in my defense, the lines indicators were not complete nor fully there at the time of the trade... top box is a sample of some indicators from 240 to 15. The middle box are current TF, the lower box are my 90.

 

[hayseed]

But simply put, I exited because I got squeemish, not because of any rules.

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we all suffer from that occasionally, or at least me for sure..... there is a cure.......

very good charts......

i see your using sometimes as many as 5 contracts and trading gold and oil...... guessing that is a 50k account......

can you tell me from memory , what a single 5 minute mgc bar's atr is worth...... what about a single mcl 5 minute bar's atr....... mnq bar's atr...... and your using 5 contracts.....

what about a 15 minute bar on those........ from memory......

do you really need that much...... think in terms of risk of ruin......

on 50k accounts, my contract size is 1...... usually only mym trades......... 50 cents a point.......

on 150k accounts, still 1 contract but will venture out with mnq and mes....... 2$ and 5$ a point.......

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moving averages show direction...... stochastic shows momentum.......

take your charts and put the stochastic(10,10,10) on them only showing the signal line..... where was the stochastic when you bought or sold...... now change to the 5 minute..... change to the 15 minute......

noticed your charts were 1 minute...... keep in mind that if the stochastic is falling on the 15, 30, and 60 your 1 minute trades might work out better if they are in line with them......

both moving averages and momentum indicators remind me of the wind......

have noticed when jogging a wind from the left or right does not help or hurt much....... a wind from my back makes it easier....... a wind to my face makes it much harder......

run with the wind....... as much as possible.....h
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i'm monitoring moving averages along with the sthochastics on first 5 time frames......

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reduced down to a single window.....

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[TradeChaser]

These are important questions, I admit that I am still getting used to the ticks and values. Did some homework, although these ATRs are likely a good 10 to 20% higher midday.

Unfortunately, I am only in a $25k account, and I am reaching for the $26,500 goal.

Aiming for a single 30min atr, based on these numbers, yields the need for 37 successful captures of 1, 30min atr if that ATR averages about $40 value depending on the time of day.

37 successful captures.

Risk of ruin certainly increases with contract size. But I am still not understanding exit criterion. It would seem that, no matter what, all of your trades are ended at 7:30am, unless they hit profit of course. I believe that I am trading more contracts because the think I seem to grasp the best is watching 1's and 5's. I see your average trades end up being close to an hour, with some of the longest being 4hr.

I don't think any of my trades would have been profitable, save a couple, if I held on for an hour by the time my cnts == 90 and my current timeframes were all in agreement. I say think. I believe it has as much to do with knowing that I clawed back from -$450 to B/E balance. When I see $100 in the trade manager, even if it's been 15 minutes, I can't bear to see that $100 turn into $70.

 

[hayseed]

25k might be the perfect size...... probably is.....

little can be derived looking at my trade lengths or exits...... below is this weeks so far...... next weeks will be different......

i will often exit when the indicators say to..... sometimes i set a trailing stop...... other times i might go work on the sawmill, or dig out stumps or have to get hogs out of the traps and on and on...... you just would not believe the things i do daily....... so i might close everything just to be safe.....

most of us trade different when taking evaluations as opposed to being funded.......
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once funded..... a single 15 minute atr per day can pay the tractor note.....

imagine trading only a single contract every day for a year...... next year trade 2...... the following year trade 4...... then 8.......

imagine just trying to average 50$ per trade contract..... so 50$ per day the first year, 100$ a day the second and so on......

that's pretty much my first base..... 50$ per day per account......

somedays i get a double, triple or home run....... or get struck out......

it's just a game.....h
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[hayseed]

just when you think you have caught them all more show up.......

if i close my trades early tomorrow, you can see the reason today.......

will take me quite a few hours to clean those......h
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[hayseed]

this now tonite...... asian session...... it's a 150k account...... the mym, mes and mnq after 7 hours have not moved......

asian trades are often longer..... if they move up and give me a good buffer, might be able to hold them most of the day......

only looking for 500$ total.......h
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[TradeChaser]

most of us trade different when taking evaluations as opposed to being funded.......
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You're a busy fellow, and I can feel this statement. The growth goal is so low... only 6%. Yet, $1500 with 2 weeks to go. leaves almost no room for single contract trades, unless I am able to capture full, 240 ATRs.

This is part of the reason I scaled up my position size for fear of missing the eval. it's hardly helped. I will likely fail this one, practice, and try again when they are 90% off and I have proven I can capture ATRs

 

[hayseed]

You're a busy fellow, and I can feel this statement. The growth goal is so low... only 6%. Yet, $1500 with 2 weeks to go. leaves almost no room for single contract trades, unless I am able to capture full, 240 ATRs.

This is part of the reason I scaled up my position size for fear of missing the eval. it's hardly helped. I will likely fail this one, practice, and try again when they are 90% off and I have proven I can capture ATRs

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you don't fail unless you break a rule..... there is no time limit.....

you will be automatically rebilled at the end of your time unless you cancel billing on the dashboard......

what ever profit you have made carries forward...... of course if your deeply negative, it's worthwhile to cancel the billing.....

there is nothing wrong with taking longer......

very few can pass in a single month...... of those few, many will not last.......

something like 3 or 4 out of 1000 ever get a payout......

use simple common sense trading rules..........h

 

[TradeChaser]

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you don't fail unless you break a rule..... there is no time limit.....

you will be automatically rebilled at the end of your time unless you cancel billing on the dashboard......

what ever profit you have made carries forward...... of course if your deeply negative, it's worthwhile to cancel the billing.....

there is nothing wrong with taking longer......

very few can pass in a single month...... of those few, many will not last.......

something like 3 or 4 out of 1000 ever get a payout......

use simple common sense trading rules..........h

These are good points. I will consider staying in another month if I show meaningful improvement. I suppose the failure is self-described in that, if I cannot hit this goal in a demo account, is it a good use of funds to continue paying for an eval? what follows a month of trades with inconsistent results and a lack of structure... I fear another.

But truly, I do see now that I can consider another month of putting simple, common sense trading rules in play.