apex proof of trading

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for some reason apex is asking me for screenshots for 4 or 5 days......

darrell himself point blank in a video says roughly only 2000 out of over 200,000 traders were asked to supply this......

seems strange i'd be in that 2000.....

we must take screenshots with reasoning for the trades.....

this will be quite a task......h
 
day 1 ....... sunday 5pm cst to monday 4pm cst...... only 7 papex accounts traded.....

the screenshots with details will be more of a task than previously thought.....

difference in entry points on different accounts is due mostly to time taken creating screenshots......

trades closed between 3 pm cst and 3:30 pm cst...... due to no overnight holding......

might limit this to 1 account only..... or copy trade them all......h

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trades to be made today....... documentation in advance for apex compliance dept......

breakout and support/resistance range strategies will be used today......

most common examples are asia range, big ben, and opening range.......

trading inside support/resistance until breakouts.....

to name a few......h
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for apex compliance dept...... asia range, big ben, and opening range....... done

big ben and opening range trades as of around 8:40 cst...... those will be the trades from 7:30 cst till 8:40 cst...... last ones were based on the 8:31 cst 5 minute bar opening range..... there were a few asian range trades......

unless i am screen recording, there is almost no way to screenshot the trades entire duration...... big ben/orb trades can be too fast.....

methods are widely known and provided in advance in my prior post.......

my thoughts were that i'd use tradovates trailing stop and let them run...... did not have time...... profit targets hit.....

did not copy trade...... only 3 or 4 accounts traded at most......

reason, breakout strategies carry more than average risk......

.......h

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for apex compliance dept.....

next trades will be based on stochastic ...... common overbought/oversold....... documentation provided here in advance......

might wait till after todays 4pm cst close......h
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for apex compliance dept........ done with stochastic trades......
were not many...... only few accounts traded..... any trade after 10 am cst was stochastic based following these charts.......

all trades closed while writing "maximum 1 more 5 minute bar left"...... just about need someone marking up charts while someone else trades.....

will post adocumentation well in advance for tomorrows trades later here...... h

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for apex compliance dept.....

day 3..... tomorrows trades , which begin at 5pm cst cme open today, will be based on rsi ...... documentation provided here in advance......

will not copy trade....... will not trade all accounts..... 1 micro contract per trade....... mnq and/or mes only......
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in advance fyi, in advance......

day 4 , thursday, will be candlestick patterns...... will post documentation here well in advance.......

day 5, friday, will be multi color moving averages...... will post documentation here well in advance.......
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this is beginning to seem like fun......h

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Apex will go under, and we will know it was because a tiny hayseed was more than they could keep up with!
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lol..... thanks...... but i'm just a grain of sand on apex's beach......

still trying to figure out why i was picked...... darrell has said they need to move people to live accounts...... it's being done manually now, but they are trying to automate the process in the next 90 or so days.....

the prop firms that plan on being around are trying to get traders on a live account so they can look better in the regulators eyes.....

topstep for example, will move you out of a sim account into a true live account after 5 payouts or before if they see a need....

most rather stay in simulated because it might be easier for them......

personally, i'd rather be in a live account...... for me, the positives far outweigh any negatives.....

i volunteer.....h
 
for apex compliance dept........ done with rsi trades......
were not many...... only few accounts traded..... any trade 8am cst today was based on the most common everyday rsi type signal......

documentation provided yesterday above in post 8...... nothing new here.......

100$ a day is seemingly small till you extrapolate it out for a year......

changed my mind and will use multicolor ma's next...... candlesticks friday......

seems like a ma type day.....h

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for apex compliance dept.....

next trades, day 4, will be based solely on moving averages ...... common crossovers, color change, some alignment and rarely extreme distances.......

multi time frame trend following......

alma, hma, jjma, jjfatl, coppock will be used heavily..... satl, fatl, dema, tema, and trix to a lesser degree.....

documentation provided here in advance......

will start at 9 am cst...... will copy trade..... 1 contract per trade...... 4 micro's max......h
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hey tc..... let me answer here..... first, and most important trading is not a cake walk for me...... really hope it does appear that way ......

what happens in vegas stays in vegas...... what i said in forex stays in forex...... too much to mention, in time you will see...... forex is different than futures....... it's plants and animals different......
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as far as the timeframes, remember forget anything i said in forex.......

think of the average length and minimum maximum price excursion...... think of counts...... think of if...... think of then....... think of drawdown.....

in futures, using the smallest mes or mnq contract size, if your short and the 1 minute stochastic turns up, how much will your drawdown be before it turns down......

in futures, using the smallest contract size, if your short and the 1 minute alma turns up, how much will your drawdown be before it turns down......

in futures, using the smallest contract size, if your short and the 1 minute hma turns up, how much will your drawdown be before it turns down......
and on and on......

think of counts....... think of how many bars it might move against you and the cost......

if you look at some of the charts, the center band bordered with yellow lines is the 1 minute...... as you progress up and down, those are the 5 , 15, 30, 60 and 240 i think...... so if you were selling it might be best of the higher timeframes were magenta...... but even if they were magenta, think of the possible drawdown with a 1 minute countertrend....

imagine being long with outer bands lime and the center 1 minute group turns magenta....... notice the price drop......

even a single micro contract can have 200$ or 300$ drawdown.....

futures traders often speak of targets of 3 or 4 ticks...... that might be a couple seconds.... couple minutes......

you should know the average count for every indicator...... you should know the atr for every timeframe...... multiply the 2.......

trade accordingly........h
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for box 1, are those all the same indicator on different time zones (5, 10, etc). So that box number 1 and box number 2 are just two different indicators across a number of tf?
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for box 1, are those all the same indicator on different time zones (5, 10, etc). So that box number 1 and box number 2 are just two different indicators across a number of tf?
and out of curiosity, was that yellow box an entry for you? that is a lot of blue stacked up around it!
 
and out of curiosity, was that yellow box an entry for you? that is a lot of blue stacked up around it!
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yes, approximately......

i manually place that yellow rectangle on trade entry to push my focus there..... in addition, those rows are separated with increased vertical spacing and with 2 horizontal yellow lines..... that is also for more focus on what is important.....

below is the code..... you should be able to figured it out......

bjjma240 is the jjma on the 240 chart.....

bjjma15 is jjma on 15 minute.....

bjjma is jjma on 1 minute......

same deal as before, just mq5 version......h

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MQL5:
   for(int i=limit-1; i<rates_total; i++)
     {
 
                         bjfatl240[i]    = 22.0;
                                bjfatl60[i]    = 21.0;
                                     bjfatl30[i]    = 20.0;
                                            bhma15[i]      =  19.0;
                                                   bjfatl15[i]    = 18.0;
                                                          bhma5[i]       = 17.0;
                                                                 balma5[i]      =  16.0;   
                                                                        bjjma5[i]      = 15.0;                                                                                 
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                                                                              bao[i]         = 11.5;
                                                                                     balma[i]       = 11.0;
                                                                                           bjfatl[i]      = 10.5;
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                                                                                            bjjma[i]       = 10.0;                                                                                                       
                                                                                      bhma[i]        = 9.5;
                                                                               bcoppock[i]    =  9.0;                                                                     
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                                                                        bjfatl5[i]     = 6.0;
                                                                 bcoppock5[i]   =  5.0;
                                                          bjjma15[i]     = 4.0;
                                                   balma15[i]     =  3.0;
                                            bcoppock15[i]  =  2.0; 
                                      bjjma30[i]     = 1.0;
                                 bjjma60[i]     = 0.0;
                          bjjma240[i]     = -1;
 
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you should know the average count for every indicator...... you should know the atr for every timeframe...... multiply the 2.......

trade accordingly........
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Multiply the 2….. by .5, no?

Alma may average 5 bars. ATR may be 15 points… but do you expect 5 full ATR? Naturally at least one of those 5 Alma bars will be leading you to the opposite signal at the end. Perhaps half the ATR is feasible
 
Multiply the 2….. by .5, no?

Alma may average 5 bars. ATR may be 15 points… but do you expect 5 full ATR? Naturally at least one of those 5 Alma bars will be leading you to the opposite signal at the end. Perhaps half the ATR is feasible
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atr times 2..... or whatever your comfortable with........

look at the chart..... mes 5 minute atr is about 2 and the $ value of a single atr is about 10$...... of course atrs change during the day......

if the 5 minute alma signal averages 5 bars, of those 5 bars it would be nice to make 2..... 2*10 is 20$...... extrapolate out 20$ per trading day a year......

yes, some of that average is consumed the alma turns...... but that has less an impact when all the timeframes agree...... during those times the count runs much longer...... so the returns are better...... much better...... maybe 50$....... extrapolate 50$ per day non compounded......

there is a highly predictable number of times that will occur per day.......

the hard part is waiting.......h

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atr times 2..... or whatever your comfortable with........

look at the chart..... mes 5 minute atr is about 2 and the $ value of a single atr is about 10$...... of course atrs change during the day......

if the 5 minute alma signal averages 5 bars, of those 5 bars it would be nice to make 2..... 2*10 is 20$...... extrapolate out 20$ per trading day a year......

yes, some of that average is consumed the alma turns...... but that has less an impact when all the timeframes agree...... during those times the count runs much longer...... so the returns are better...... much better...... maybe 50$....... extrapolate 50$ per day non compounded......

there is a highly predictable number of times that will occur per day.......

the hard part is waiting.......h

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The top half of that dashboard looks quite similar across each of those underlyings and they all look like the greens add up to far more than the reds... yet only MYM says "buy 1 and 5"...

The only thing I can see different between each of the underlyings is "major indies align". Is this what is throwing your "wait" signal?
 
The only thing I can see different between each
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20 is not that much different than 22.......

think in terms of the tipping point..... think in terms of total counts......

if the tipping point is 21 you might do something when x >= 22 that you would not if x <= 20 ......

what is your tipping point......

how much must align before you buy...... how much must align before you sell....

look at the mym chart......

saywords().......h

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MQL5:
   if(NewBar())
    {
     Comment("buy  " + IntegerToString(b) +"  sell  " + IntegerToString(s));
 
     if(b >= buyat)  {Alert(_Symbol+"  buy  b  " + IntegerToString(b) );  }  //---- your buyat would be your buy tipping point
     if(s >= sellat) {Alert(_Symbol+"  sell   s  " + IntegerToString(s));  } //---- your sellat would be your sell tipping point
    }