How Much Would You Pay Successful Trader for Managing Your Account?

What is a fair fee (% of profit) for successful Forex account management?

  • <1%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • <5%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • <10%

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • <20%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • <50%

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • 50+%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    5

Enivid

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This is a repost of our blog poll about fair money management fee in Forex.

Today, I would like to talk about a topic, which is of particular interest to many potential investors and account managers — what is the fair value for managing someone else’s funds in Forex? PAMM accounts are especially popular among Forex traders. According to our old poll, more than a half of this blog’s visitors deal with PAMM accounts either as traders or as investors. But PAMM accounts aren’t the only options when it comes to passive investment in Forex trading — there is copy trading, direct account management, signals, and so on. In any case, the question of the price of such services is equally important both to a customer and to a providing side.

Of course, many aspiring Forex traders or people who had bad experience with Forex trading account managers before, would probably claim that management service should be cheap because it is inherently risky and dangerous. But, for the sake of approaching the question of fair management fees based on performance alone, let’s assume that the potential investor trusts the account manager — e.g., they are childhood friends or that the manager is some other person the investor is confident in and respects.

Let’s suppose that this trader has your trust and is capable of making 20% a year with very low drawdown. To reduce transaction risks, you decide to work via a PAMM. What percentage of profit would you be comfortable giving away for this trader’s service?

On the one hand, you would still remain with quite a reasonable ROI even paying 50% of your profit to the trader. On the other hand, it is important to remember about the inherent risk, possible periods of drawdown, periods when capital cannot be withdrawn and is locked in the account, investment opportunities you would missing on, and so on. After all, 20% a year seems nice, but of course there are potentially better opportunities out there sometimes (for example, S&P500 was up 29% in 2019).

For reference, you can see how would the growth of your capital would differ when invested for 10 years with our imagined 20% profit trader with a set of distinct profit-based fees: 0%, 1%, 5%, 10%, 20%, and 50%. As you can see, the difference in total ROI becomes tremendous after 10 years of 50% profit fee ($10,000 grown to $61,917.36 vs. $25,937.42):

10 Years Investment Growth Simulation with 20% Yearly ROI and Profit-Based Fee

I personally, would have probably invested some of my funds with such a trader if the fees were under 10% of profit. Because, frankly, I aim to earn more with my own trading (as probably most experienced FX traders do). And what is your opinion on performance fees in Forex?
 
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sunar14

Banned
Jan 17, 2021
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I would pay zero and trade myself because I don't trust anybody who claims he can successfully trade FX and ready to take money under management. If he is really good he could borrow money at bank and use it as additional margin to boost profit. His risk-reward using debt would be better.
 

JoshEvansFX

Trader
Jul 7, 2021
52
4
19
31
After what I've experienced with trading, I wouldn't let anybody else manage my money. Too many snakes out there, would rather trade myself and make my own decisions.
 

peterpies

Trader
Mar 18, 2019
27
3
14
50
I would never let anyone trade with my money using leverage. How ever small, there is a risk of the account balance being reduced to zero. And managing risk is the holy grail of investing or trading.

I'm surprised at the responses in the thread, given what Envid outlined. There are funds that have annualized over 20% per annum for the past decade, with an annual fee of 0.95%. Not high risk funds either.
 

e_abrams

Active Trader
Dec 11, 2020
451
31
39
41
I think it depends on the profit. If the profit is good they would likely deserve a bigger percent of it.
 

e_abrams

Active Trader
Dec 11, 2020
451
31
39
41
Well, the risk would be for me, wouldn't it? Since I would be the one owning the money - and their loss.
 

HeavenLeighGill

Active Trader
Aug 5, 2021
389
35
44
28
Since I'd be the one investing the money and the one at risk of losing everything, I would only be willing to part with maybe 10% of the profits.